Skip Simms: Venture Capital in Michigan

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As described in our last segment, the Michigan Pre-Seed Capital Fund matches equity investments by venture capitalists, angels, and others in early stage ventures. In this segement Skip Simms, the fund's manager, describes the state of venture capital in Michigan...

Skip makes three points:

  • On a national scale, Michigan falls in the mid to lower mid tier of states when venture capital activity is measured in number of firms or assets under management. The state is attempting to improve its position with the Venture Michigan and Twenty-First Century Jobs funds.
  • If a Michigan company seeks venture capital and wishes to stay in Michigan, they will most likely work with a local Michigan venture capital firm. Even if the company gets funding from out-of-state venture capitalists, those venture capitalists will want someone with local presence as an investment partner.
  • Michigan venture capitalists, like venture capitalists in the rest of the country, invest incrementally, waiting to see the extent to which the initial investment is succeeding before investing more. Over the 10 year life of an investment fund, they seek to provide a return of two to four times to their limited partner investors.

21 Comments

Mark Osborne on October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
I must say that before watching this interview, I never really knew much about venture capitalists. After watching this, I actually found this field to be quite interesting. After listening to this interview, it actually filled my head with questions. For instance, how does a venture capital firm always know when they will return their investment? How do they know what firms will in turn be a good investment? How do they know what is the right amount to invest into a company? As I would like to have my own business someday, this might be a area that would be of concern to me as a way to fund my business. Is a venture capital firm a good way to go even if you are a small firm with a revenue income under a $1,000,000 or should you look elsewhere? This interview was very interesting and also helpful to me.
Sheri Emmons on November 2, 2008 9:36 AM
As an inspiring entrepreneur the topic of venture capital in Michigan struck my attention. Before this interview segment I knew a little about venture capital but this interview put the concept into perspective. A small business must have a strong business plan established in order to convince a venture capital investment. Venture capital firms are looking for high returns and a profitable exit strategy. It makes perfect sense that a venture capital firm would take there investing efforts slowly. By injecting small amounts of money (1 million) at a time this assures the firms will not loose all of their investment if the small business does not succeed in it’s early stages of business. A venture capital firm can be more interested in a start up business due to the return in investment. Usually the firm has interest in the business through common stock or convertible preferred stock, this will allow the firm in sit on the board and become involved with the decisions. Having a venture capital firm based out of Michigan is very helpful to the small business since the availability of meeting on short notice is possible. I feel this business relationship is ideal for an entrepreneur that believes their business will take off like a rocket. It’s hard as an entrepreneur to come up with the initial funds to start the business. This interview served as quality information for any entrepreneur needing answers to lack of start up funds.
Venture capitalists are one of the most interesting topics for business students, especially those looking to one day start a business of their own. As the interview mentioned, the state of Michigan is in the middle, nationally, of the VC pool, with funds in the $20-$75 million range. One of the most refreshing parts of this video was what wasn’t said, that even in Michigan, with its struggling economy and high unemployment, there are still VC firms looking to invest in the future. As well, these companies keep lending money in the face of a significant credit crisis that is impacting economies around the world. Although they make up about 7% of the funding for all private businesses, VC firms have been involved in bringing some of the biggest companies in the world to life, including Google, Microsoft, Apple and FedEx. Entrepreneurs looking for VC support need to be well prepared for the extremely high cost of doing business with this type of firm. Like all debt financing, a solid business plan must be in place long before contacting a VC. Firms tend to take many months deciding where to put their money, and often look for an established track record of success as well as a viable exit strategy and the ability to recover some of their investment. As well, the VC will demand a hefty percentage of the company, as much as 70% at times, in return for their investment. They will also expect a seat of the board of directors of the company. VC firms are going to challenge the competency of management, determine whether or not the company has a competitive edge and look at high growth industries before lending money. If they do choose to invest, they are going to do it strategically with multiple cash injections at various times, limiting their exposure as the new company evolves. On one hand, these VC companies can seem vicious, with their demands and expectations. However, they come with significant experience and resources that can make the different in a fledgling company. I was surprised to learn that it is becoming common for multiple VC’s to work on the same companies, with one taking the lead. This is quite a departure from the early 21st century, when VC’s fought tooth and nail to get their money into many of the dot com companies. Obviously like the rest of us, the VC’s realize we are dealing with a significantly different economy.
Karina Vaks on November 13, 2008 8:57 PM
I found venture capital and the funds introduced in the interview to be quite interesting. I never thought that Michigan ranked where it did in terms of venture capital. I thought it would be higher on the list than middle to low. I thought it was interesting how the venture capital firms operate. Mr. Simms mentions that it is common for a VC firm to be the lead firm who has a member on the board at the company they are investing in, and to have other VC firms go in on the deal with them. I did not know that most funds only last ten years, which makes me wonder how and when an escape plan in created for the ten year mark or do they continue to sit on the board.
Jennifer Ahlers on November 16, 2008 8:27 PM
It doesn’t surprise me to hear that MI with the way the economy is right now is in the half to lower tier for states when venture capitalist is measured. However, I do appreciate the fact that the venture capitalist that do work with Michigan's entrepreneurs are working with smaller businesses. I believe that there are a lot of potential business owners that need help when it comes to investment needs in Michigan. It seems that the only way I was able to get financing would be through debt capital. As you know this will require me to have to pay interest on my loan which could add up to be a hefty sum, depending on how much I require. I really appreciated this interview because I was not aware of the benefits and opportunities that VC in Michigan offers to new entrepreneurs. However I was wondering what you would suggest for someone like myself who is thinking planning on opening a small bakery. As you might know a bakery is probably not going to seek investments of $3 million to $10 million in the first year to make it worth a VC while to invest in my business. What would you suggest? Would you as a fund manager see investing in a smaller? Sincerely Jennifer Ahlers
Cerynthia Edwards on November 17, 2008 2:46 PM
Before viewing this interview, I knew very little about venture capitalist and the extent of their investing. However, over the last few interviews that I have taken a look at, none of the entrepreneurs want funding from a venture capital investor because they want the freedom of running their own company and not having someone over their shoulder asking millions of questions or worst of all taking over their business. This caused me to do a little bit more research to get a better understanding of venture capital. The two types of venture capitals that I have studied during my management courses have been the Corporate Venture Capitalist that are large corporations that are in the business of financing small companies such as Motorola, Qualcomm, Intel, General Electric, Dow Chemical, Cisco Systems, UPS, Wal-mart and others. The other type is the venture capital company, who purchase equity in new businesses that they believe possess high growth and high profit potential. The Michigan Pre-Seed Capital fund works with early stage technology companies and they match other investments or grants. It is very easy up believe that the venture capital in Michigan is in the mid to low half of the state in terms of Michigan against the U.S. Being a future entrepreneur in Michigan, this is certainly a subject that I will be conducting much more research on so that I make the best decision for my companies success.
Alan E. Bradford on November 17, 2008 5:45 PM
Like the last segment on venture investors Skip Simms interview was a lot clearer. He explains how venture capital would help your business venture. Rather then the Terry Cross Angel investor’s interview. Skip gives you a lot of insight on what an investor is looking for and what an entrepreneur should be looking for out of an investment. I also like how Capital Ventures is searching for investment in the technology field in the state of Michigan. With investments in the technology industries that will help bring jobs to the state economy, who knows they might invest in a technology entrepreneur that would help the auto industry in the state of Michigan. The thought of if an entrepreneur receives investments for an out of state investor that they still have to stay instate is a vast economic strategy. To me personally Capital Venture seems to be a more promising investor then Angel investors, even if you have to do research or more then likely know some one that works for them. Capital venture also seek to provide a return of two to four to their limited partners investors, over a ten year life investment fund.
Alan E. Bradford on November 17, 2008 5:46 PM
Like the last segment on venture investors Skip Simms interview was a lot clearer. He explains how venture capital would help your business venture. Rather then the Terry Cross Angel investor’s interview. Skip gives you a lot of insight on what an investor is looking for and what an entrepreneur should be looking for out of an investment. I also like how Capital Ventures is searching for investment in the technology field in the state of Michigan. With investments in the technology industries that will help bring jobs to the state economy, who knows they might invest in a technology entrepreneur that would help the auto industry in the state of Michigan. The thought of if an entrepreneur receives investments for an out of state investor that they still have to stay instate is a vast economic strategy. To me personally Capital Venture seems to be a more promising investor then Angel investors, even if you have to do research or more then likely know some one that works for them. Capital venture also seek to provide a return of two to four to their limited partners investors, over a ten year life investment fund.
Having a venture capital firm in Michigan would be very helpful, if I were planning to stay in Michigan. I have to wonder if they would be willing to look at my plan and consider investing in my Florida based business. Simms provided a lot of information on what I would need to have in order to get an investor to consider investing in my business idea. It is no surprise to me, however, that Michigan ranks in the middle at best amongst the states, becuase Michigan's economy is getting worse and worse by the day. This idea of Venture Capital is something that I'm going to have to look into more.
NyAngel O'Neal on November 18, 2008 3:05 PM
Hello my name is NyAngel O’Neal and I’m a student at Eastern Michigan University and this semester I’m enrolled in an entrepreneur class. This semester we are learning about different businesses and entrepreneurship. I viewed the interview of Skip Simms Venture Capital in Michigan. This fund is a state wide investment fund. In the interview he stated that Michigan falls in mid to lower tier. I was wondering how Michigan can increase to a higher tier. The interview also discusses how Michigan is working on improving the different venture in the 21St century in Michigan. Hopefully, that can help Michigan move in the tiers. It seems like VC has a track record of increasing their return within two to four years. This seems like once VC get going they will help different companies out in Michigan. This may be what Michigan needs to get everyone motivate again. I enjoyed viewing the interview; I think this company will make a large impact in Michigan. Another point in the interview I notice is that VC wants companies to stay in Michigan even if they get funding from out of state venture. By having companies stay in Michigan they want outsource to another state or even out the country.
Jessica Cook on November 18, 2008 4:31 PM
I found the interview with Skip Simms to be very insightful because I don't know much about venture capital. I like the fact that he broke down which type of capital would be best for a each type of business. I think that most people starting a new business would think that they need a larger firm to back them in order to be successful. I like the fact that venture capital would like the companies to stay in Michigan even if the funding is from out of state. I think this could help Michigan by providing more jobs in the state. I think that venture captial is trying to do their part in making Michigan a successful place to start a business.
Dariusz Seklecki on November 18, 2008 5:21 PM
After watching this video and the other one on angel innovators, I am surprised that companies like this exist. This is very good to have especially for early stage ventures like the memory clock. I like VC because they want companies to stay in Michigan and this is the time that we really need it with the economy getting worse I think VC is great for us. I would like to know more about this company.
I am always interested in how businesses get funded and this video has shown me another aspect of that process. I always thought that venture capitalists only invested in potential multi billion dollar companies. But as the video pointed out, they could invest in multi million dollar companies as well. I also was not aware of the fact that several different venture capitalists will team up and invest in one company. This form of financing seems extremely risky for venture capitalists and I would be interested to see the process they go through before they decide on investing in a company. This activity would be way to risky for me.
Skip Simms, the fund’s manager of Michigan Pre-Seed Capital Fund, made a few very valid points about Michigan’s capital activity. It is obvious that Michigan funding has taken a toll and now needs to find a way to rise again. Skip said the state is attempting to improve its position with the Venture Michigan and Twenty-first Century Job funds. It is very important to get funding locally; however, out-of-state funding would be accepted as well. In order for the state to find out just how much the state needs to invest and regain capital, the state should develop a pro forma to help get an idea of what the state could look like in the future, financially. Any business owner, not just the state, may have a hard time coming up with funding to start a company or keep the economy rolling. Having a venture capital firm based out of Michigan would be very beneficial for all small business owners. Venture Michigan and Twenty-first Century Job funds have helped many small business owners start out. Without these VC firms as well as other smaller firms, many small business owners would have a harder time starting the business. The interview pointed out that if a business owner wanted to start up a billion dollar company, he or she would need a VC who would be willing to support that company if they believed the company will also be a billion dollar company. It seems to me that half of the battle with starting a business is getting others to believe in your business as well. Once you have accomplished this belief, the company already would have a heads up on other companies. Starting small and working their way up to the top is also another way for small business owners to grow their business. The interview pointed out that many business owners may start small since they are unsure of the outcome of the company. Once the company is proven to be successful, VC may be willing to invest more in the company to make the company grow faster.
William Shaffer on October 10, 2009 2:08 AM
My name is William Shaffer and I am a student at Eastern Michigan University. I am a member of an Entrepreneurship class at Eastern Michigan University and my professor has asked us to look on this website and comment on Michigan’s Innovators new ideas and entrepreneurial opportunities. Michigan’s venture capitalists investments are slim to non and many of those investments are not even staying in our state. This is a huge problem, and how are we (“we” being the state of Michigan”) supposed to come out of this recession if we are receiving the funding that we need? I feel this problem starts at the top, and the top would be our state government. Tax incentives could be implemented or other incentives for investments that stay in our state, and will benefit our state. I think the next in line is Michigan’s Universities and the research of our Universities, especially the big universities (U of M, MSU, etc) to see which opportunities they are offering their graduates to bring their innovative ideas into the market. Most innovators will go through one of these universities, and this is where their first opportunities should be presented to them, their university. I feel if these students are paying thousands of dollars, sometimes up to one hundred thousand dollars for their education, the least the university can do is present them with an opportunity upon graduation, as long as they have earned it, of course. No matter how good of an innovation one has, the final factor of getting that innovation into the market sadly is money and financing. I feel there are many of great ideas and innovations that are looked over or not giving a fair opportunity because the lack of financial reasons, therefore, something should be done to give these innovations a chance to make themselves and this state some profit.
Melisa Mello on November 16, 2009 3:02 PM
My name is Melisa Mello and I am a student at Eastern Michigan University and currently taking a Entrepreneurial class. The Michigan Ventures Capitalist Investments seems like great opportunity for business (new) that need to find financial backing and investing opportunities. However with the state of Michigan today, it is obvious that the current funding opportunity is very low. Skip in the interview points out some very important information that could help get Michigan’s economy back on track. He states that in order for the state to find the legging it need to put together a proforma to get outside assistance and to be able to regain capital. Many businesses and states currently have fell on hard times and with a venture like this to help stabilize the economy and get new or current business owners on their feet is giving the opportunity for success in all areas. Without programs like VC as well as other associations like BVC many small businesses who are the backbone of the American way would struggle or never be of business. The interview also pointed out that if a business owner wanted to start up a billion dollar company all it needed was a VC or financial backing institute. Finding someone one or a firm that feels the same as you do in the performance and success rate of a business seems to be the most difficult thing to ever do. A person must be able to show that nothing else out there is like their business, there business plan has to shine like a brand new coin and the owner must have the art of salesmanship down to convince an investor that its company is worth a billion dollars or a million dollar. However once that business owner succeeds with selling its vision and gets the funding, then the company’s success rate just leaped from minimal to successful and all that is left to show how much more successful that company can be.
Kaitlyn Harder on June 16, 2010 2:11 PM
I have always wondered how the venture capital companies in Michigan operate. With the interview, it became a lot more clear to me where the state of Michigan stands in terms of venture capitalists. I would have thought that we would have ranked higher on the list then where we do. With the auto industry, shipping and renewable energy companies that are already here or on the way to growing I think over the next 10 years we are going to see a jump on the list from where we are now.
Venture capital companies are private, for profit organizations that buy into young businesses that they believe to have a high potential to make returns on investments. It is important entrepreneurs understand that it is very difficult for small start-up businesses to receive funding from venture capitalist. As Mr. Simms a representative of Pre-Seed Capital Fund stated in this video, venture capital funds are larger, more numerous, and specialized. Venture capitals are looking for high returns and a well thought out exit strategy. Unfortunately start-ups are not this far along in their planning. This video genuinely opened my eyes to some of the items that venture capitalistic in Michigan are looking for. In this economy venture capitalists are looking for a competent manager, with a competitive edge, a positive growth industry, at least of their portfolio half returned and once again an exit strategy. The video discusses why many entrepreneurs are abandoning the thought of using Michigan venture capitalist and considering using national venture capitalists. I am glad that Mr. Simms is attempting to expel that misconception. Michigan venture capitalists are still providing large capital investments to desirable young business. Michigan venture capitalists are just establishing more stringent policies to govern their overall investment strategies. I enjoyed how Mr. Simms explained how which firm would be most beneficial to each venture. Mr. Simms also did a well job of breaking down the structure of a venture capital firm. The video also gives great details on how venture capitalists provide investments to business owners. Overall I think the important concept of this video is to be prepared when allotted the opportunity to go before a committee of venture capitalist. Entrepreneurs need to be prepared to adjust their venture to each firm to be able to best sale the idea of their company.
B. A. Anderson on November 23, 2010 10:49 AM
One of the biggest questions I have had throughout completing a business plan is where to find venture capital. More importantly, I was interested to know whether looking out-of-state versus in-state is a better idea. From watching the video here my thinking is that it would be beneficial to first look in-state and work with local venture capital firms and then expand later if need be. The main factor with searching out venture capital, from what I have learned, is that it really depends on the amount of revenue that the start-up company has projected to make. There is no reason for a venture capital firm to invest $100,000,000 in a company whose goal is to earn revenue of only $10,000,000. I found it very helpful to learn more about how venture capital firms invest as far as having a lead firm and then some other partners so that on venture capital firm does not assume all the risk when investing in a new company. Likewise it was very helpful to learn about how venture capital firms view having at least one venture capital firm involved that is in the same state, or city, as the start-up company as well as on the board of directors for the company so that it is easier to see the progress of the investment. Having already had the opportunity to speak with some people who are venture capitalists, hearing the information provided through this interview helps me understand some possible scenarios that may arise down the road. Thank you Mr. Simms for sharing this information. B. A. Anderson
Jake Schifko on November 24, 2010 9:52 AM
Since our state has been going through such an economical down fall, it is really cool that we have our own source of funding and such for Michigan alone. Michigan needs such companies to help pick it up and to get it going again. It has a lot of possibilities and unique ideas, but it doesn’t have the capital to move forward with such ideas. With these investors, it could help our state as a whole to rise up and out of the economic spiral and maybe even help pull the entire country out of it depending on the amount of large successful new businesses. Venture Capital matching other investors is a smart and beneficial move for both parties. Since Venture Capital wouldn’t want to lose a large chunk of capital if the business failed, they pair up with the other investors allowing them to take some of them liabilities off of them. I don’t like the fact that they don’t have smaller sums of money such as a million dollar amount of investment. They only offer 20 million to 75 million dollar amounts in investments they are willing to offer and or give. So why don’t they want to go towards businesses that need a much smaller amount of initial investment that could still have the possibilities to make large amounts of revenue. With Facebook being a perfect example, if the founder of Facebook would have approached this investment company rather than going to his friend for the sum of money he needed for the initial startup, they would have probably denied him. Then after x amount of years later they would be extremely regretting such a decision. So I believe that they should start looking at smaller businesses as well so that they could possibly make a larger total amount of profits.
Matt Fischer on November 24, 2010 2:01 PM
Venture Capitalist companies are a really cool way of funding new businesses. This video really opened my eyes as to the money side of getting a business of the group. Skip says that Michigan’s venture capitalist funding is somewhere in the middle when compared to other states across the nation. Actually we are a little lower than the middle. I believe the reason for this is the economy. If our economy were strong, these venture capitalists would probably be willing to invest more money. He stated that Michigan’s funds were in the 20-75 million dollar range, this compared to some states that have funds that exceed 200 million dollars is not a very high amount. Not only would the venture capitalists invest more money if the economy was strong, I think they would be willing to invest in riskier businesses because even still, in a strong economy, there is a higher chance of success. He also touched on the strategies that these venture capitalists use. They will invest an initial million dollars, for example, to a new company. In the back of their head they have plans to invest more millions into the company. They can see how the company manages and uses the initial million. If the company poorly manages the money or there is already events that are showing that this company they are investing in is not going to be successful, they don’t have to invest anymore money into that company. This is a great strategy because the investors are not putting all their eggs in one basket. It is a lower risk of investing rather than giving the company all the money they want up front and watching it all flushed away when the new business does not succeed. They are still gambling with a lot of money but if these VCs invest wisely they can get a very high ROI.

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